Questionable Live-In Caregiver Program Contract…..
NOTE: For information on how this blog came about, go to the Press Release of the Philippine Labor Attache as published in The Philippine Reporter (which can be downloaded in their archive section at www.philreporter.com) and the reprint of the article questioning the new contract titled New LCP Contract Scares Canadian Employers Away…..
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Recently, the labor attache of the Philippines to Canada, Frank Luna, came out with a directive that before a Filipino/Filipina live in caregiver will be allowed to leave the Philippines for Canada to work as a caregiver, an additional contract must be signed by her/his employer (The Philippine Reporter, Issue April 16-30, 2008 – pages 13 and 30).
This addition is also the subject of an article in same paper, titled “New LCP Contract Scares Canadian Employers Away” (The Philippine Reporter, issue April 16-30, 2008 – page 24) and the continuation, titled “LCP Flawed, Needs Major Changes” (The Philippine Reporter, issue May 1-15, 2008 – page 15).
The press release by the Philippine Overseas Labor Office which can be found on page 13 of the paper states:
Addendum to Employment Contract. The employer undertakes to be responsible for:
1) Cost of 2-way transportation to and from Canada;
2) Health coverage for the employee before the provincial health insurance applies;
3) Termination of employment shall only be for cause;
4) In case of work-related death, cost of repatriation of remains to the Philippines;
Employer Employee
Date ___________________________________
That “short” addition to the contract must be forwarded to the Philippine Overseas Labor Office in Toronto and have to be paid a signature verification fee of US$10 and another CAD$28.75 for consular authentication fee.
Now the question is – how will this “new” additions protect the live-in caregiver?
In case the employer reneged on the signed agreement, how will the Philippine Overseas Labor Office plan to implement any “serious” penalty for violation of those addendum, like say “a day in jail”?
To answer those questions, let us take a look at this additions…..
The first one – the cost of 2-way transportation to and from Canada that must be shouldered by the employer;
In the Labor Market Opinion of Service Canada for the live-in caregiver program, this requirement IS NOT existing (LMO-LCP2 or see screenshot here) and (LMO-LCP1 or see screenshot here) – but the office of the labor attache instead quoted the Expedited Labor Market Opinion for temporary workers for Alberta and British Columbia ( E-LMO) repeatedly in their press releases (The Philippine Reporter, Letter To The Editor, issue May 1-15, 2008 – page 14) and also at another paper (Atin Ito, Vol. 33 No. 4, April 2008 – page 1).
Now, I’m not very good in regulations or any kind of law for that matter but it seems, this are two different set of rules – one for the live-in caregiver program and one for the temporary worker program (E-LMO).
Let’s take a shortcut and include the remaining directives from Philippine Overseas Labor Office new contract which are: health coverage for the employee, termination clause and the work-related death clause.
NOT EVEN ONE of those are in the Labor Market Opinion intended for the live-in caregiver program!
So, how does violation of any one of the additions protect the rights of the caregiver? I don’t think there’s any.
Let’s give an example. Let’s say for the sake of argument that a “bad” employer signed the “new” contract so the caregiver can come to Canada. The employer have no intention of keeping the live-in caregiver and instead will terminate the caregiver as soon as she arrive in the employers house. And the employer did so without having second thoughts and fired the caregiver immediately.
Would the Philippine Overseas Labor Office do something to fight for the rights of this caregiver by “waving” the contract to the proper authorities?
They couldn’t. Why?
Because there is no Canadian law that was broken even if the employer signed that contract. Even the LMO of the live-in caregiver program was not violated.
The labor attache himself said this in one of his press release, “the contract, while approved for LMO purposes, is still a PRIVATE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE EMPLOYER and the WORKER. That being the case, such contract is still subject to the laws and policies of the Philippines, which can prescribe additional conditions to protect the interests of its nationals going abroad.” (The Philippine Reporter, issue April 16-30,2008 – page 13).
Those alone are proof that this new contract will not provide any protection at all that even law enforcers in Canada cannot cite any ordinance that have been violated. Prove me wrong. Give me any proof that a Canadian law was broken just because the employer changed his or her mind in hiring the caregiver or that the employer does not want to pay for the airfare of the caregiver or does not want to pay for the caregivers repatriation in case of death.
(By the way, the airfare and repatriation of body thing is a big issue, moneywise. No “regular” Canadian employer would agree to that – but that’s another blog post.)
Any one of those directives are argumentative.
We’re not questioning the sincerety of the labor attache for coming out with a directive like this. Maybe his intentions are good. But what he should have done is come up with a draft of his proposition and arrange several meetings with all those who’s going to be somehow affected by it. Employment agencies, caregiver groups or immigration consultants and lawyers. Ask for their input because only those involved in the caregiver employment business knows who the crooks were and “witch hunting” or unfair accusations will not help your cause of weeding out the “bad eggs” – if that’s the intention.
More study should have been done before directives like those are sent out to “take effect immediately” – where the most affected people are those who you’re trying to protect. How so?
All the live-in caregivers who are just waiting to leave for Canada when this contract came out would have to wait if their employers would be willing to sign their names knowing that those add-ons can possibly put them in debt, specially the repatriation of the body clause.
Some of this caregivers have been waiting more than a year for their “first step to a better future” but this new contract will “screw it up” if the employer does not sign it. What do we do about them now?
The Philippine Consulate and the Labor Attache better come to terms with the reality that this new additional contract will not do good to protect a caregiver’s welfare. Scrap it. Canada already has enough laws to protect every individual in this country. What should be additionally done is to disseminate every important information to newly arrived Filipinos, whether immigrants or workers, about their rights and numbers to contact in case of emergency. Information, education and extended help is what they need.
Noli Maniquis
www.AdoboRepublic.net
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@lei – sorry, i don’t know how quickly the canadian consulate work to move paperworks pertaining your situation or any immigration matters. tungkol naman sa addendum ng polo, ginawa nang legal recently ni kenney yung mga andun sa addendum ni frank luna – isa ding walang konsiderasyong palabas ng gobyerno ni harper. di ko lang alam kung apektado ka na sa bagong batas na nilabas ng canada. pakitanong na lang sa poea dyan sa pilipinas.
good day to everyone!just want to ask kung gaano katagl ang proc pra sa live in caregiver prog if sa taiwan po aq magfi2le.??any diffence sa proc sa pinas? so i know if i still have to go to taiwan..
thank you!!
@rina, sa palagay ko mas mabilis ma-process ang papers basta outside of the Philippines, pero ako lang yun ha, di ko talaga alam kung gaano katagal. tanong mo kaya sa Canada immigration.
I am an employer to the LCP and so far, she’s finishing her two years contract. Now, she has to submit at least 3900 hours of full time work by providing taxes filed or an ROE from me if she quits her job. At the moment, while waiting for her to finish, I am in the process of rehiring another one, which is in the Philippines. All the things with that POLO discussions are already a mandatory here in British Columbia, it needs to be stipulated in the contract before even getting a positive Labour Market Opinion from the HRSDC. Now I am not really happy with the CIC Manila requiring for the floor plan of the employee’s house, I felt like it was an invasion to your privacy and I thought that the contract verifying that a room with lock will be provided to the LC/Nanny is binding. If by chance that my rehire will not be processed within 8-12 mos, I am giving up of hiring nanny from the Philippines but rather would just get one from other countries where the processing is more easier.
@len, I can’t blame you if you decide to withdraw your sponsorship. The rules pertaining caregiver sponsorship have changed a lot since the time I wrote this blogpost and it got real difficult for employers to hire a caregiver from the PHilippines at present.
I very much agree that this new POLO would not benefit all of us eventually…. time consuming, confusing- said it needs two way… what a waste of money? Do they know how to earn a single penny here in canada??? and they ask confidential information the trace of money when purchasing ticket especially if its not bought here… Do they really need to know the details of it? Thought they just need the ticket? All employers are working its not helpful to go back and forth for the documents… they were not even open on weekends and its the only time permits. and they even want 50,000 coverage to cover hospital- too big? before they were given visas they had a tremendous physical examination- i don’t think its relevant especially in my case my employee is just 20 yo.
i don’t know if they have baselines in creating this memorandum! if this will be the case next time I won’t anymore hire caregivers from Philippines.
@Leah – As of April 2010, Canada have updated the requirements for sponsoring live-in caregivers, not only from the Philippines but from everywhere (page 1 here or screenshot, page 2 or screenshot, page 3 or screenshot). Except for the repatriation in case the live-in caregiver dies, other requirements already mirror the POLO directive. I just don’t know if POLO is still charging employers money for their so-called addendum. If they are, then I don’t see why they’d continue with it now that it has become a Federal directive.
hi all! excited na ko mag process ng application ko for Canada after mareceive ko ang lmo until ma visit at mabasa ko mga posts dito especially about sa addendum na yun. !parangbigla ako nawalan ng pag asa, sino nga namang employer ang gagastos ng malaki para lng makakuha ng nanny.kung talagang concern ang poea sa mga mag- at mga ofw, sana ang pinagkaabalahan nila ay yung wala n placement fee sa mga agency!! kainis talaga!!!
hi kitty girl, sa ngayon hindi lang yung addendum ng POLO ang problema ng mga caregivers at employers, pati na din yung dinagdag ng Federal Government. So, talagang effective na yung mga requirements para sa employer bago sila makakuha ng caregivers.
hi everyone! just wanna ask if somebody knows how to cancel my live in caregiver application..I am supposed to take the speaktest this coming april 29, 2011.
Hi lhea, I think all you have to do is not appear on your exam date? I’m not sure but you can ask the Consulate.
hi!just wana ask.. i have just finished my speaktest and passed.just waiting for my medical exam. i just learned that my employer canceled my application. what can i do?my sister is in canada now, pde bang sya n lng ang employer ko? tas uulit pa ba ako ng processing like speaktest?
di kita masasagot sa inquiry mo, pero meron akong nabasa tungkol sa mga caregiver http://canadaimmigrationfacts.com/latest-changes-for-foreign-contract-worker-rules-to-canada/ punta ka dyan baka andyan ang kelangan mong sagot
Hi, I just finished my medical last August 16, and passed. How long does it take for the canada embassy to process it, and when can I hear from them for PPR? I am quite anxious and nervous with the waiting…thank you.
@Fred – I don’t know the exact answer and nobody can really give you any, but according to some people here in Toronto, anywhere between 6 months to a year. The discretion is on the officials of the Canadian Consulate in the Philippines.
Pls help some one who have an Idea….
I’ve been in canada for 2 yrs unfortunately I lost my status so I voluntaryly exit canada…I have a new employer and apply for LMO process in canada. My question is do i have to undergo speaktest again if I’m going to process my work permit in the philippines? thank you.
@Katrina – my guess is you will have to go over from the beginning again since you already lost your status. Don’t worry too much because you been to Canada and I think you can pass this test.
Too bad for me so back to square 1, maybe I will call the canadian embassy in the philippines when i get back there,i’m still here in canada and will try to appeal what I am afraid of is they already sent me a letter that I must leave canada…anyway thanks for the reply.
@Katrina – if you’re still in Canada, have you tried getting the advice of a lawyer? Maybe they can help you find a way, if the order is still some time away.
I have a question about one of the stipulations in the POLO addendum. What would happen if I terminate my employee without cause? e.g., Suppose I get laid off and can no longer afford a live-in caregiver so I lay her off? What if the caregiver complains that I’m in breach of contract? Likewise I don’t want to terminate with cause unless there’s truly “just cause” otherwise this may lead to a case of wrongful dismissal, right? Any advice?
@Vince – I don’t know the rules regarding employing a caregiver, so I cannot be sure what answer to give you. But if you lost your job, isn’t that enough “cause” to let go of your caregiver? I’m not really sure about that, but I just based it on my own thinking – better to inquire from a knowledgeable person. Hope you find a solution. Goodluck.
Hi, Im still at the process of getting my OEC. My employer is asking if it’s necessary to purchase a two-way ticket? or one-way is ok??? Thanks!
Ask your employer to call the Philippine consulate to inquire. I don’t think it’s necessary to buy return tickets because you will have to stay in Canada longer than the ticket validity. Philippine Embassy in Ottawa number is 613-233-1121, Philippine Consulate in Toronto phone is 416-922-7181 and Philippine Consulate in Vancouver 604-685-1619. Goodluck.
Hi! I just want to ask are they really strict when it comes to the speak test? I had mine last Dec 19 and im still waiting for the letter from the embassy. I dont want to call the number that they gave me because im just afraid to know my score. Thankyou. :-) but i know God is always there to guide me on my application. :-)
@Bella – why would you be afraid of the result? It’s either pass or fail only, either way you’ll learn about it later – why not sooner?
yea i know. But still i’ll just wait. So Speak test is really a requirement? Is there any instance where in failed in speaktest but was able to have their medical?
But ofcourse im not thinking of failing.. Im being positive. :-) Im just curious about that. :-)
@Bella – if it is a requirement, then you must pass it before proceeding to the next level. If you have doubts, call the number the consulate gave you.
just want to ask…after all the interviews in the LCP in Manila …is there a 4 days seminar that cost 8k? not even a visa or a notice that she passed the interview?
@Mye – I’m sorry, I have no idea what other requirements there are for the live-in caregiver program. But it would be a good idea to ask around from people who have already undergone the procedures. Goodluck.
Hi! I received my Medical Referral today. I took the speak test last December 19, 2012. Goodluck po sa mga nagiintay ng ST, MR and visa.. Malapit na din po sa inyo..
Godbless us everyone!
@Bella, congratulations! See, now you’re visa ready. Sana ma-enjoy mo ang winter ng Canada. LOL.